God bless the levelling sysyem

[Localtiler]

The best invention in the tiling world since I've been on the tools! Do we have any none clippers on here ?

 

[jcrtiling]

Got to agree with you there , everything else I use has been around in one form or another.

 

[Andy Allen]

Me....
I'm a clip virgin.
Although I have a rectified 600x 600 job coming up so may have to bite the bullet !
So would be grateful of some recommendations...

 

[Localtiler]

Oh Andy, get those eyes opened, see the light

Schmox from eBay, 1.5mm

 

[Boggs]

Me....
I'm a clip virgin.
Although I have a rectified 600x 600 job coming up so may have to bite the bullet !
So would be grateful of some recommendations...

Cheap ones on eBay, like these.

 

[Andy Allen]

Oh Andy, get those eyes opened, see the light

Schmox from eBay, 1.5mm

Is 1.5mm the thickness...?

 

[Andy Allen]

Do I need a spanner of some kind to fit them...

 

[Andy Allen]

How many would I need for 50m2..

 

[jcrtiling]

600
I never use a tool .

 

[Localtiler]

1.5mm width, and use a 2 or 3mm spacer rather than using the clip as a spacer. The pliers, get some yes see how you go

 

[Andy Allen]

I don't normally use spacers with floor tiles...
Going to have to change my entire working practices...

 

[Tony_C]

1.5mm width, and use a 2 or 3mm spacer rather than using the clip as a spacer. The pliers, get some yes see how you go

Ditto, I use 1mm Schmox with my own spacers, I tried using 2/3mm without spacers but they sometimes vary in width slightly so can knock it. I just tighten by hand though but i do mean to get the pliers but keep postponing it.

Also another tip @Andy Allen is to push the wedge and clip in towards the tile your butting up to as you can knock the spacing out pushing the other way as the tile may move slightly

 

[al strachan]

I bought some the other day for my 8m2 wetroom project. 300mm square tiles. Can you use 1 per corner? The wedge looks big enough to level all 4 corners at once?

 

[Tony_C]

I personally wouldn't do that Al as i would like to see the spacing is correct where all 4 are meeting as it may move slightly but others may say different. I'd also have a fear of a corner chipping off when you knock them out, make sure you knock them out in the same direction as the grout line. You can loosen the wedge back out again though with a little wiggling if they do move. Buy a white rubber mallet or use a black one wrapped in masking tape to stop the tiles being marked.

 

[al strachan]

Thanks Tony, cheers for the tips . aye forget that, the thought of chipping a corner has put me right off !!!

 

[Andy Allen]

Thought the pliers were mandatory..?

Appreciate the help, some useful tips.
Would you say it adds a lot of time on a job..?

 

[Tony_C]

They can be a little fiddly at first as the bases are quite thick but once you get going it outweighs any faff at the start you may have and then when (and if) you use them again you will fly through the next job. Also remember to leave clips in the tiles that you finish off for the day, that seems an obvious one but i can still catch myself out with it still. I place lots of obstacles over or around them to help remind the customer they are there overnight.

There is a good video on youtube of a guy adapting a multi tool grout blade for getting into snapped clips or if you didn't leave any and want to get some in. I'll try find it if anyone is interested in having a watch

 

[widler]

Thought the pliers were mandatory..?

Appreciate the help, some useful tips.
Would you say it adds a lot of time on a job..?

I never use pliers , just use your hands , much easier.
I use mostly on large tiles or planks.
I’m doing a 50m2 plank at the mo,the clips are a must imo, I think the only thing what’s slows us down is back buttering tiles now.
Once you get used to them , it’s speeds up the job without a doubt

 

[Tony_C]

Here is the video, i've watched most of his stuff, sad i know, but he has some good ones

Tile Leveling System Tips and Tricks

This video will show you how to install tile leveling clips and spacers the day after setting tile using a multi tool and a grout removal bit. T-Shirts: http...

youtu.be

 

[widler]

Ps shmox on eBay are the best clips for the money , you can get around 2000 clips and a few hundred wedges for about £100, it’s a no brainier , no point paying double that for a named brand

 

[Spare Tool]

Generally unless they're just crap clips the only reason they don't snap off properly is cuz they're cacked round in addy, found running the tip of a scraper just down the edge of last tile stops this happening. Also Imo anyway its a waste of time using rapidset with clips..

 

[Spare Tool]

Last row of the day I use off cuts and stick some clips in and lightly push in wedges to keep in place for day after..

 

[Tony_C]

I'm liking that idea @Andystiletiling, definitely going to copy that

 

[Spare Tool]

I'm liking that idea @Andystiletiling, definitely going to copy that

works well mate...till you take wedges out, step over em, forget they're there and kick em off

 

[Balloo]

Oh Andy, get those eyes opened, see the light

Schmox from eBay, 1.5mm

Qhat are they like for thicker tiles , like 12mm

 

[Localtiler]

Spot on !

 

[Balloo]

Can you apply a lot of pressure in the squeeze without breaking

 

[jcrtiling]

Can you apply a lot of pressure in the squeeze without breaking

Subjective that one , and varies from clip to clip , time to try them .

 

[Andy Allen]

Spot on !

Do you use the pliers Andy..
And do you only use slow set...?
I normally just use rapid on floors.

 

[Spare Tool]

Any clip can be forced into breaking off if you tighten them too much, the 2mm schmox dont bend, are strongest ive tried and excellent value for money... The only slight complaint are the bases are around 3mm thick so 10mm notch minimum but wouldn't use less than that on a floor anyway so no problem..

 

[Localtiler]

Do you use the pliers Andy..
And do you only use slow set...?
I normally just use rapid on floors.

I used to use the pliers but I use them less and less now. I only use the pliers if I'm having a bad time and need to really clamp them up. If your floor is good and your trowelling is consistent then you can just use your hand. I only ever use slow set unless I need to tile and grout in one day which is rare.

 

[jcrtiling]

I have this technique where I push the wedge away with the heel of the hand then pull the clip back up the wedge towards me with my fingers . Never pliers

 

[Sean Kelly]

Tip. If you are going to buy 1000 1.5mm shmox clips off eBay then don't!

1000 clips is £48.95 but
1200 clips is £47.99!!

Also, the shmox pliers bend. I use my hands to push the wedges in.

 

[Spare Tool]

Hadn't noticed that with the quantity thing... Generally get 2000 for £80.
Agreed the pliers are rubbish, Raymond plyers best but don't use them very often..