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Very poor job. I think he's rushed it to get it done in a day. The https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ going off quickly in the heat is no excuse - he could've mixed smaller batches or used a different https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/. Tilemaster do a semi-rapid https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ which isn't bad.
If the tiles are agglomerated quartz he should have used a two-part https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ - latex instead of water.
Either way it's not good enough.
Thanks for those comments. Gives me a good bit of confidence moving forward with the claim against him.
 
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No they are the same thickness, tiler has used this as an excuse as the boxes were different but I contacted supplier who took serial numbers & checked. Same size, same manufacturer
Serial numbers checked ? You can not have black tiles and white tiles off the same batch. They will have come down two different production lines .
 
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Two guys doing 14 metres isn't rushed .
Yes they've done a bad job but the timescale isn't ridiculous
I was concerned they walked on the floor too early when grouting. And this could be a reason as to why the excess lippage everywhere.
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Serial numbers checked ? You can not have black tiles and white tiles off the same batch. They will have come down two different production lines .
He claimed they came from two different manufacturers & were different sizes. The serial numbers were checked by the supplier proving they were from the same manufacturer & same size.
 
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As I said two different colours can't come of the same batch,. Sizing on tiles is usually nominal so one batch 300 x300 can be 298 x298 and one batch can be 304 x304 as for thickness there probably is some variation also , but that being said if they couldn't do a good job with what they had they should of said. .
Some https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ goes of quicker than others also depending tile type ,temperature , humidity , and background . I have certainly walked in tiles a lot quicker than a couple of hours as was stated earlier .
 
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As I said two different colours can't come of the same batch,. Sizing on tiles is usually nominal so one batch 300 x300 can be 298 x298 and one batch can be 304 x304 as for thickness there probably is some variation also , but that being said if they couldn't do a good job with what they had they should of said. .
Some https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ goes of quicker than others also depending tile type ,temperature , humidity , and background . I have certainly walked in tiles a lot quicker than a couple of hours as was stated earlier .
I appreciate your reply. I’ve been trying to get reasons as to why the finished surface as it is. A guy with 23 years in the job shouldn’t be leaving a customer with a surface like this.
 

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Nobody denies you can walk on tiles sooner, that's not really the overall point here, it's the finish. It just seemed tight for what was originally thought of as a one man job, primer to dry, layout, lay and grout. If it was priced as a two day job then why risk it all within 6 hours. That finished job shows what a 6 hour lay leaves when there was no need to do it as quick 🤷‍♂️
 
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I'm sure if the op goes to small claims I'm sure they wont care how long it took , after all if it took 3 days would op think the work was ok , no I doubt it , they will only be interested in the finished product and that is what the op should concentrate on . .
 
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I'm sure if the op goes to small claims I'm sure they wont care how long it took , after all if it took 3 days would op think the work was ok , no I doubt it , they will only be interested in the finished product and that is what the op should concentrate on . .
Thanks. Yeah I’m getting a bit off focus & trying to look into reasons as to why it’s like that. Need to stay focused On the finished floor.
thanks for the advice.
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Nobody denies you can walk on tiles sooner, that's not really the overall point here, it's the finish. It just seemed tight for what was originally thought of as a one man job, primer to dry, layout, lay and grout. If it was priced as a two day job then why risk it all within 6 hours. That finished job shows what a 6 hour lay leaves when there was no need to do it as quick 🤷‍♂️
Yeah if it was done properly in 5 minutes or 3 days I wouldn’t be here asking you guys for advice.
thanks for that. 👍🏼
 
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This is an extract from a technical publication from the tile association
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It looks as if the the tiles are two different thickness looking the picture that the ruler is touching two of the but the one in the middle is lower is this another bad job done by a kilsyth tiler 😡😡
 
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Don't believe bal do a https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ suitable for quartz resin tiles, as said it should be a zero water https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/ or if you listen to tile aster a very low water content https://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tile-adhesive/.
A Tiler with a years experience should know this let alone 30 years.
Will probably come up by themselves even before they a taken up by a new Tiler and layed again lip free
 
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Am from Kilsyth and have heard that there’s a few tilers leaving bad jobs but as a said on my post one of the tiles mite be a different thickness as a have just done a big floor with porcelanosa tiles and they had a border tile and they were told that they were same thickness but once put together there was about 2mm of a difference 🙈
 
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Am from Kilsyth and have heard that there’s a few tilers leaving bad jobs but as a said on my post one of the tiles mite be a different thickness as a have just done a big floor with porcelanosa tiles and they had a border tile and they were told that they were same thickness but once put together there was about 2mm of a difference 🙈
Not good to be leaving bad jobs, the floor looks cracking but it’s terrible underfoot. You can feel the lippage with shoes on!
 

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